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Fishman, Stephen and McCarthy, Lucille. (1998). John Dewey and the Challenge of Classroom Practice. N.Y., N.Y.: Teachers College Press

264 pp.

$20.95 (Paper)         ISBN 0-8077-3726-7
$46.00 (Cloth)         ISBN 0-8077-3727-5

Reviewed by Joyce Cassidy
University of Wyoming

November 3, 2000

        In their book, JohnDewey and the Challenge of Classroom Practice, philosophy professor, Stephen M. Fishman of the University of North Carolina, Charlotte, and Lucille McCarthy of the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, explain the ideas of John Dewey and their relevance to today's teaching. The current educational stampede is to align all educational practices so that students' test scores funnel neatly into percentile scores which then loudly shout the student's perceived level of proficiency. It was encouraging to read Fishman's concern as a teacher for not only student outcomes but more importantly, for the means of getting there. After giving a thorough and readable account of the theories of John Dewey, Fishman tells of his pedagogical struggles as a teacher of college philosophy students. McCarthy's role is that of qualitative researcher, watching and writing about Fishman and his students.
        The first chapter of John Dewey and the Challenge of Classroom Practice begins with a quote from Democracy and Education by John Dewey, "Such things, [knowledge, beliefs, ideas] cannot be passed physically from one to another like bricks; they cannot be shared as persons would share a pie by dividing it into physical pieces" (as cited in Fishman and McCarthy, 1998). Fishman says this epigraph could be used to explain the importance that Dewey placed on student interest and activity for learning (1998). Ideas cannot be passed out like bricks because, like bricks, they cannot be easily separated from one another, but are an integral part of an entire structure. Like ideas, bricks must have a purpose before they are useful. Fishman (1998) states, "We must have the desire to live in a building, construct a new one, or demolish an old one" (p. 20). Ideas are the bricks or building blocks of the learner. Only when there is purpose, will learners use ideas to begin to construct new meanings and begin to modify and adhere these ideas to those already more firmly in place.
        Fishman (1998) goes on to describe two teaching dichotomies that he believes Dewey would find to be nightmarish. One is the vision of a progressive teacher who loves her students by allowing them do as they please (Fishman & McCarthy, 1998). The other is a vision of students arranged in rows, answering rote learning questions. Dewey recognized the importance of both student and curriculum, but thought the focus of instruction should be placed on the learning process (McCarthy & Fishman, 1998). The student should need the curriculum in the learning situation and therefore be "prompted to intelligently explore, use, and remember it." (Fishman & McCarthy, 1998, p. 24). Having been required to read smatterings of Dewey throughout my educational course work, I always read what I was asked to read and felt a stirring of excitement. There's always a new educational theory, a new and better practice in education, but Dewey was a constant. The opposition that was voiced always seemed to be that Dewey focused too much on the student and not enough on the curriculum. So in amongst the excitement that I felt for the type of real-life teaching that I saw as Dewey's, there was concern, that perhaps, the students would gain nothing more than warm fuzzy feelings. Fishman (1998) sums up his interpretation of Dewey and students and curriculum and their relationship to one another:
In sum, Dewey takes students seriously enough to worry, not about year-end exams, but about the sorts of character they are developing. He also takes curriculum seriously enough to want students to be able to intelligently access, evaluate, and make it their own. In other words, if we really care about curriculum, we should help students use it, test it, and preserve what is best in it for a developing world. And if we really care about students, we need to study curriculum to understand how it can best promote the methods and traits of character students require for informed, fulfilling lives (p. 27).
        As I continued to read John Dewey and the Challenge of Classroom Practice, I again felt that stirring of excitement about Dewey. Dewey cared about the student and the curriculum and the process. I read eagerly on.
        Part One explains John Dewey's complicated educational philosophy of nested dualisms. If Dewey's educational nightmares are to be avoided, all of Dewey's dualisms need to be considered by the teacher (Fishman, 1998).
        Fishman (1998) discusses the dualism of continuity and interaction. Every learning experience is continuous, taking from the past and laying tracks for the future. Each learning experience also has an interaction component, when the learner is interacting with his environment. The quality of the experience will depend on its continuities and interactions. This seems to make sense, each student takes his past and uses it to construct new knowledge and then takes his new knowledge and is on his way to an even greater understanding. To get to any new understanding, interaction of some sort is necessary. Continuity and interaction are then inexorably intertwined or "nested."
        The dualism of construction and criticism refers to the construction or production of anything, whether it be a report, a building, or an idea (Fishman, 1998). The criticism necessarily follows the construction. The criticism is the judging of what is done so that it has meaning and purpose. Without criticism, the construction is meaningless for the learner. Dewey makes it clear that criticism is not to be the red marks of a teacher on the work of a student. Criticism has to be the work of the learner as he views what it is he has constructed, whether it be trying to fit new ideas in with those that he assimilated already or whether he looks at a project or other physical creation and decides whether it fits the purpose that he has meant it to serve. Construction serves no worthwhile purpose without the thoughtful, individual criticism of the learner.
        The last of the Dewey dualisms, interest and effort, has three principal components (Fishman, 1998). The "for-whats" are the goals, the problems students want to solve, things they have a need to say, or causes they want to promote. Without the "for-whats," interest will be lacking, and therefore effort. But even a strong "for-what" is not enough. A student must also have a "to-what" or object of focus which is that which must be attended to in the environment, if the "for-what" is to be achieved. The last principal component is a "with-which" or bridge. A student must travel from that which is familiar to that which is not. The right amount of unfamiliar must be present, or the student cannot succeed. Too much unfamiliar and the student is overwhelmed and gives up. Too little, and he is unchallenged and unmotivated to continue.
        Once again, as with the other Dewey dualisms, this dualism just makes sense. The ideal lesson challenges just enough, but not too much. This was the first I'd read of Dewey's dualisms. My smatterings of Dewey had not included them. But all the parts seemed familiar, and although I'd never have been able to list them as such, I immediately recognized them as the integral parts of good learning, and it is the constant challenge of a good teacher to provide as many as possible for the students. I thank Fishman for making Dewey's complex ideas more understandable and relevant.
        Part Two is entitled "Deweyan Classroom Experiences." Fishman takes us on an autobiographical journey of his quest as an undergraduate philosophy major at Columbia. He tells of his yearnings to understand philosophy and of his desire to know when he was writing philosophically. Fishman's quest to gain understanding of the subject matter and his interactions with his professors lead him to understand that active learning, rather than passive, is necessary. It is Deweyan philosophy which helps Fishman (1998) understand his struggles as an undergraduate student. But Fishman (1998) also says, that it took not only Dewey, to reach an understanding, but 30 years of teaching and reflecting on the problems which he faced as a teacher. As a teacher, he was able to review the problems he had had as a student, and gain some understanding of his professors' reasons for answering his questionings in the ways they chose. Fishman impresses me with the way he's able to think back to his college days and reflect without rancor on what seemed to be his professors' less than half-hearted attempts to assist him in his heartfelt searchings.
        As teachers, we're expected to just know, and it's hard to admit the questionings and the doubts. Yet, it seems to me, the more I learn and read, the more uncomfortable I become and the more I question and the more I doubt. Yet, it is those that continually doubt and question that I most admire. Fishman impressively reveals all of his questioning and doubts and relates them to Deweyan theory.
        Fishman (1998) attends a Writing Across the Curriculum retreat in 1983. He is so changed by the experience that he throws away the syllabus he has developed for the philosophy class he is teaching. He now thinks that what he has planned to teach is not continuous with his students' lives and will soon be forgotten anyway. Fishman (1998) begins to work to engage his students in learning about philosophy through writing about their own lives, "The centerpiece of my new strategy was the freewrite" (p. 90). Fishman (1998) tells his students that he considers the semester to be successful if everyone falls in love with just one sentence, preferably their own.
        In 1989, Fishman (1998) attends a College Composition and Communication Conference, and it is Lucille McCarthy, a panelist at the conference, that questions Fishman about what he is teaching. Was it philosophy? And what was philosophy anyway? And didn't philosophy need to differ from the teaching of literature (Fishman & McCarthy, 1998)? This begins Fishman on another pedagogical quest. Fishman returns his class to more philosophical texts and continues the freewrites but becomes more explicit about their contents. Fishman and McCarthy begin a long running collaborative research project using Fishman and his students as subjects.
        McCarthy (1998) triangulates using interviews, field notes, student and teacher documents, and videotapes. Through her efforts, Fishman's class is visited by the reader and Fishman's constant searchings to make his classes more relevant and memorable and Dewey-like are made apparent. Fishman (1998) decides that he, "needed to pay more attention to Dewey's charge to teach indirectly, to integrate classroom activities and resources less obvious than student and curriculum: namely, questioning and answering, teaching and learning, homework and classwork" (p. 133).
        The final four chapters of the book concentrate on five students and relate the findings of McCarthy's qualitative study. We see the results of Fishman's remodeled pedagogy which includes a letter exchange within the classroom in which Fishman (1998) hopes to, "get students to come up with their own foci of interest from the assigned text, what Dewey would call their own ‘to-whats'" (p. 134). "For-what" also becomes more than just a student wanting a good grade, there is now the desire to understand the material so that it can be related to a fellow student and the readings hopefully become relevant to issues in the students' own lives.
        In their conclusion, Fishman and McCarthy (1998) answer the question of, "Why Dewey, now?" First, Dewey's ideas are relevant to contemporary criticisms leveled at public education. Second, his ideas are feasible as well as effective in promoting teacher development, and, third, they are feasible and effective in promoting student learning (219).
        Although this book was written about a college class, I found it relevant as an elementary teacher. To have the opportunity to share in the searchings of a great and caring teacher as he scrutinizes and modifies his teaching practices, was inspiring. I don't think Dewey would approve of the test score mentality which seems to be taking over the field of education, but I think he would approve of Fishman's and McCarthy's book.

About the Authors

Stephen M. Fishman is at University of North Carolina, Charlotte.
Lucille McCarthy is at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County.

About the Reviewer

Joyce Cassidy is an elementary classroom teacher and an education doctoral student at the University of Wyoming.

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